IBIS Macromodel Task Group Meeting date: 4 Sept 2007 Members (asterisk for those attending): * Ambrish Varma, Cadence Design Systems * Arpad Muranyi, Mentor Graphics Corp. Barry Katz, SiSoft * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group David Banas, Xilinx Donald Telian, consultant * Doug White, Cisco Systems Essaid Bensoudane, ST Microelectronics Ganesh Narayanaswamy, ST Micro * Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems Ian Dodd Joe Abler, IBM * John Angulo, Mentor Graphics John Shields, Mentor Graphics Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems * Kumar, Cadence Design Systems Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems Luis Boluna, Cisco * Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp. Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Mike Steinberger, SiSoft Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon Design Automation Paul Fernando, NCSU Radek Biernacki, Agilent (EESof) Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Ray Comeau, Cadence Design Systems Richard Ward, Texas Instruments Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent Shangli Wu, Cadence Stephen Scearce, Cisco Systems Syed Huq, Cisco Systems Syed Sadeghi, ST Micro Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Vikas Gupta, Xilinx Vuk Borich, Agilent * Walter Katz, SiSoft -------------------------- Call for patent disclosure: No one declared a patent. ----- Opens: ------------- Review of ARs: - SiSoft will propose a new reserved_parameter keyword table - TBD - Write parameter passing syntax proposal for a possible BIRD a) Propose a parameter passing syntax for AMI models b) IBIS spec should allow parameter value assignment for *-AMS using a syntax that is consistent with the parameter passing syntax of the AMI models c) Allow parameter passing for SPICE [External ...] also? - Berkeley SPICE does not handle paraeters at all. - Walter proposed handling this with a preprocessor - Ian: send relevant papers on related IEEE work - TBD - Arpad: Review the new macro library files. - TBD ------------- New Discussion: - Cadence AMI toolkit status: - Cadence should release this by Friday, 9/6 - Discussion of BIRD proposal: - Walter: Would like a "description" in the reserved parameters, like a README for model - Walter: Recommends each [Model] could have multiple [Algorithmic Model]s...so as to facilitate optimization, e.g., with each instance having different settings, etc. - Arpad: We probably need another BIRD later on to make the rest of the general IBIS spec compatible with the this current BIRD - Walter: Suggests we go ahead and submit this BIRD as it is now, work out issues later - Arpad: In order to make BIRD robust, need to have compatibility issues worked out between it and the general IBIS spec. AR: Walter: Send email to distribution list to get feedback on Michael Mirmak's comments Next meeting: 18 Sep 2007 12:00pm PT